Our Interview with Adam Savage from Mythbusters

In April, we were invited to present our project at the White House Science Fair and many people came to see our project. We had the honor of being asked to present our project to the President of the United States.

We also presented our project to many members of the media and science celebrities. Adam Savage, the co-host of Mythbusters, also came to the White House Science Fair to check out the science projects that were on display.  He was funny and really nice to us. He seemed to be really interested in what we were talking about, and he was very animated when he talked.

It was really exciting for us to get to meet him and talk to him about our project, especially because our family are really big fans of his show!


More Data Analysis

Our data came from our flight computer and was recorded in a .TXT file. The column headings include:

Date, Time, Latitude, Longitude, Head, Km/h, Alt-m, mV, mA, mW, Temp C, and Pa

We then imported the .TXT file into Microsoft Excel and deleted all the information from before the launch and after the landing. Then Dad imported the Excel file into Tableau, a graphing software program. We then came up with a bunch of different graphs to display our data.

Click images to enlarge.

Altitude vs Pressure

As the balloon ascends, the pressure decreases because the density of air goes down. As our spacecraft approaches 30,000 meters above sea level, the atmospheric pressure approaches zero pascals. This lack of pressure is what eventually causes the balloon to pop.

Alt-m vs Pa


Altitude vs Temperature

We learned about the changes in temperature shown in this graph in our last launch, which is very similar to this graph, which is good, since we don’t think the layers of the atmosphere have changed since our last launch.

The first layer of the atmosphere is the troposphere. While traveling upward through the troposphere, the temperature gets colder. But as soon as it reaches the second layer of the atmosphere, the stratosphere, the temperature becomes warmer. We will have to do some more research to find out why.

Alt-m vs Temp C


Altitude vs Current

We attached a solar panel to our spacecraft and it measured the solar current that it was collecting. This graph shows the current that the solar panel absorbed from the sun. The lines are very jagged because of the motion of the spacecraft, but the trend line we created shows very clearly that our hypothesis was correct: As we get higher, there is more current generated by our solar panels and we think that this is because there are less particles in the air to block the suns rays.

Alt-m vs M A

Altitude vs. Power

Power is equal to Voltage times Current (Power = VI) so both voltage and current are factors in this graph. You can see the lines gradually show the curve that the voltage showed during the ascent. Also, the trend line, though it is not quite as pronounced, shows that there was more power as the balloon ascended, which shows the current.

Alt-m vs M W

Altitude vs. Voltage

The voltage measurement is measuring the voltage produced by the batteries powering our flight computer. We were very surprised at the change in voltage because we thought that the battery voltage would continually stay the same and not change. It did not seem that we could make any conclusions from this chart. But by comparing voltage to a different measurement in our next chart was really interesting.

Alt-m vs M V

Voltage vs. Temperature

When we first saw this graph we thought that since the temperature was changing with the atmospheric layers, the voltage levels must be too. However, we did some more research and we found out that the voltage levels actually changed because of the temperature levels, not because of the atmosphere. The temperature changes because of the atmosphere, and the voltage changes because of the temperature.

We did some more research and the reason this happens is because of the chemical reactions inside the battery. When the temperature gets warmer, the chemical reactions happen faster, and consequently there is higher battery performance and more voltage. On the flip side, when the temperature gets colder, the chemical reactions happen slower, so there is lower battery performance and less voltage. This correlates very clearly with our data set from the launch.

M V vs Temp C


Altitude vs Speed

Our speed data was a little bit different from the last launch: see From the Project Binder. Last launch, our speed stayed around 35 km/h until it reached the tropopause, the space in between the troposphere and the stratosphere, the first and second layers of the atmosphere. In the tropopause, there is very little air resistance so the spacecraft was able to move much quicker than otherwise. However, in our second launch our spacecraft’s speed rose steadily to reach its high speed in the tropopause instead of a sharp difference of speed like our first launch.

Alt-m vs Kmh



Mission Debrief for Loki Lego Launcher 2.0

Our mission was successful!  We met all of our primary goals:

  1. Reach a height of 27,500 meters (90,200 feet); we made it to 30,880 meters (101, 325 feet).
  2. Complete the launch and descent in less than four hours; our mission length this time was 3 hours and 23 minutes.
  3. See the curvature of the earth on our video footage; see picture above!
  4. Compare data with our first launch and see if we observe the same temperature changes at the same heights; our temperature/altitude graph looks very similar to our last launch.

However, we might have failed on one of our secondary parameters: Parachute not opening.  Our cord between our balloon and parachute was too long and the balloon got twisted around the parachute lines.  When we found the Loki Lego Launcher, it was totally twisted up.

By the Numbers

Height at highest point (apogee): 30,884 meters (101,325 feet)

Total flight time: 3:23:30; launch to apogee: 2:30:30; apogee to landing: 53:00

Temperature range during flight: -55C to 31C (-67F to 87.8F)

Fastest speed during flight: 127 km/h (78.9mph)

Distance between launch and landing sites: 126.8 km (78.9 miles)

Data is Everything

Our APRS Radio Bug that we added as a second tracker to our spacecraft was awesome.  It was so fun to see where it was in real-time, and we were able to be close to our landing site before it actually landed.  (Chasing the spacecraft in the car while it was coming down was super exciting).  It gave us really interesting data that can be analyzed in several ways.

Raw Data from flight computer:   EAGLEB01.LLL2.0 – Copy

PDF charts: Loki Lego Launcher 2.0 Data

APRS track
From APRS.fi, using the latitude and longitude coordinates
LLL2.0 path 1
Using the KML data in Google Maps for a 3D view showing altitude

Plus, our data from our new VI sensor was really interesting.  There is a lot more to analyze, but we think there are going to be lots of other ways to use use this sensor.  We have a lot more data analysis to do over the next few days and weeks.

Our Solar Experiment Hypothesis was Correct

Our solar panel experiment that was on board was based on the hypothesis that as our spacecraft got higher, then there would be less particles in the air that would block the sun’s rays, so the solar panel would produce more current.  Well, according to our data, this may be true!

Alt-m vs M A
Altitude (meters) vs Current (mA)

As can be seen in the chart (that Dad did for us), as the altitude increases, the trend line showing the current data also increases.  The other cool thing is that all those tests that we did while we were trying to figure out this solar experiment were useful, because this data shows that at least our circuitry wiring was correct!


Lessons Learned

Like last time, we talked about what we learned from our launch on the car ride back home from the recovery site.  A few lessons we learned were new, and a few were similar to our first launch.  We referred to our first set of lessons several times during Launch Day.




Launch Day: Play by Play

Online Tracking: APRS or SPOT


2:32pm Successful retrieval of Loki Lego Launcher 2.0!!  We are so excited and happy and thrilled!  We are now going for a cold ice cream, and will take some time to look at the data and the footage.  Thank you so much for coming along with our launch today, we loved having you with us!


2:22pm. It has landed! We’ve parked and are walking through a tall grass field looking for it…

1:41pm It’s on the way down, and it exceeded 100,000 feet!  We’re NE of Ritzville, and are trying to intercept it.  Super giddy group of stratospheric explorers right here.  SPOT signal re-acquired.

12:37pm We’re now back in the car; the hunt is afoot!  Loki Lego Launcher 2.0 just broke through 80,000ft, thus exceeding our previous max height. Go Loki Go!!  The chase is on.

11:31am We’re taking a short pit stop in Moses Lake. Can’t believe how fast the balloon craft is moving.  The APRS data is phenomenal. Our predictor indicated that the balloon will double back, head west, and after bursting, it will turn back east again. Hard to say how high it will go, but it’s fascinating to get this data in real time.  We hope the solar experiment is collecting good data! Back to the chase soon.

10:49am Now the chase begins. Follow along using the links above. The APRS data will also include altitude and temperature.  We’re heading east!

10:42am APRS and SPOT tracking active. Heading in the right direction.

Kimberly celebrates successful launch

10:34am LIFTOFF!!

10:20am Balloon inflated, attaching to parachute and spacecraft now.

9:47am This seems like a nice place to launch a spacecraft.  Launch will likely be closer to 10:30am.

8:47am Launch Directors have (groggily) confirmed weather and wind conditions. We are Go for Launch.  Heading to launch site now.

7:15am – Both Launch Directors still sleeping, hmm… (Dad)
6:13am – Weather at launch time calling for sunny skies around 84F (29C)  with 10-12mph winds from the WSW.  It will warm up to 93F by anticipated recovery time, so it’s going to be a hot day! (Dad)

Online Tracking Links

Click here for Launch Day: Play by Play

We have two online tracking system on Loki Lego Launcher 2.0.  One of the lessons we learned from the first launch was to “have a redundant system.”  We’ll be a lot less anxious now that we have two trackers on board.

APRShttp://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FKI7CSK-11&timerange=86400&tail=21600 (map refreshes automatically)

SPOT Tracehttp://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=01LPm5td7Ba6NoyxmiEAaDQvXpGSjeciO


The Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) is an amateur radio based system used for real-time communications. We are using the APRS radio transmitter in conjunction with our flight computer to transmit latitude, longitude and altitude to an iGate, or Internet Gate, which allows us to track our spacecraft in near real-time (one minute intervals) on a website like aprs.fi.  The APRS does not work as well as the SPOT Trace on the ground, but it is the only way we can transmit altitude data while in flight. Thanks to Dad, we are officially allowed to use the APRS system because he got an Amateur Radio License (his call sign: KI7CSK).

SPOT Trace

The SPOT Trace is a GPS tracking device that can be used for a variety of applications. It is generally used for tracking things that may be lost or hard to find, like the Loki Lego Launcher. The SPOT uses GPS to transmit its lat/long coordinates to a web page or app approximately once every five minutes and can be attached to practically anything.  One of the drawbacks of the SPOT is that it doesn’t work at high altitudes, as the satellite cannot track it when it is too high. It also does not transmit altitude, which was a problem for us in our first launch. It will be our main source for retrieval of the Loki Lego Launcher because it works best on ground.


Join Us on Launch Day: Saturday July 30

Our testing is complete, we have our new tank of helium, and if the wind and weather cooperate, we are planning on launching Loki Lego Launcher 2.0 on the morning of Saturday July 30th.  Launch location is TBD, probably somewhere in Central Washington again.

We’ll keep our blog updated, and will share a link that should allow anyone to track our spacecraft online in near real-time.  We’d be happy to have you along for the ride! (by Dad)


Our Solar Experiment: Testing, Testing, and More Testing

As mentioned earlier, our second launch is going to have a few differences, including a bigger balloon, a redundant tracking system (APRS), and a different Lego minifigure.

However, the biggest difference is this time, we are going to conduct a solar experiment on board the Loki Lego Launcher.  We are using a solar panel from a solar experiment kit, and we are beta testing a voltage/current sensor from High Altitude Science.

Here is our hypothesis:  as our spacecraft rises higher through the atmosphere, the output produced by the solar panel will increase, as there are fewer particles that will block the sun.  To test this, we will measure the output of the solar panel on the ground by using the voltage/current sensor, and then, when we launch the Loki Lego Launcher 2.0, the flight computer will continue to track the output as it rises.  If our hypothesis is correct, when we analyze our data, we will see that the current increases the higher the spacecraft goes.

Our sensor is also wired to measure the computer’s current consumption. We will have to subtract the amount of current that our computer uses from our total amount of current to get the amount of current that our solar panel absorbed.

On Sunday, we tried to figure out how to wire our solar panel to the voltage/current sensor, and how to position it on our spacecraft.  We tried many different configurations and did test after test after test.  We think we did at least nine different tests that day, trying to figure out the best way to measure an increase in output of the solar panel.  We were doing all the circuitry and wiring ourselves from scratch, which is tricky since we’ve only done some basic stuff at school.

At first we thought we should connect our circuit in parallel, but we wanted to measure voltage, so we connected it in series. But the way the wiring works, connecting in series means that we would need to have the solar panel in complete sunlight for the circuit to be completed and for the entire flight computer to work at all. It wouldn’t track any data. We thought we could use a jumper cable to override the circuit, and it did. A little bit too well.

Current will always follow the path of least resistance and it completely bypassed the solar panel, not getting any energy from it at all. After we figured that out, we went back to connecting the circuit in parallel and measuring current instead of voltage. That way the whole computer would still work without the solar energy, and we could still continue our experiment.

When we tested this configuration and then checked our data, we saw that the current and power increased when we put the solar panels in sunlight, and then decreased when it was in the shade.  Yay, finally!

test data
The highlighted numbers show when we put the solar panel into the sun and the amount of current increased.  Data!

We’ll keep you updated on information. Stay tuned!

Preparing for Loki Lego Launcher 2.0 (again)

Today we are getting ready for Loki Lego Launcher 2.0, which is on track to launch soon. Our project plan has been created and we are reusing our spacecraft just like we said in our earlier post: “Planning for Loki Lego Launcher 2.0“. Our mission goals and changes from Loki Lego Launcher 1 can be viewed there.

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We attached our newly updated flight computer from High Altitude Science, which, in addition to our temperature/pressure sensor, now has a voltage and current sensor. We also added a redundant tracking system called the APRS Radio Bug which relies on radio waves to communicate data to a web page. We will be posting links to track our GPS device and our radio tracking device on launch day.

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Today we also field tested our two tracking devices while driving around town, and have found that both tests were successful. The GPS device can be tracked on our phone with an app and we stopped along the way to track the APRS device with the computer. We’ll post updates on the upcoming launch as the date approaches. Stay tuned!

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Special Visit to NASA’s Kennedy Space Center

Last week we went on a vacation to Florida. As part of our visit, we got to visit the Kennedy Space Center (KSC) in Cape Canaveral. The KSC is part of NASA and it holds some really amazing things. It is also where NASA rockets launch from. We were there to learn about rockets, space, and the Earth.
They were faking it here, but experienced the sound for real the second day.
We took the KSC Bus Tour where we saw a mock-up of the rocket that Alan Shepard, the first American to fly in space, flew. The Blast Deflector was tiny compared to the ones we have now. Along the tour we saw alligators, manatees, wild boars, a bald eagles nest, and tons of birds.
We passed by the VAB or the Vehicle Assembly Building. It was HUGE. It is the tallest single-story building in the world. The 12 ft. doors that humans use looked like mouse holes to us compared to the doors that they moved rockets through. They are the tallest doors in the world and they take 45 minutes to open. They assemble all of the main parts of large rockets in the high bays inside.
We got to drive near Launch Pads 39A and 39B. They are the largest launch pads on Space Coast, the coast where all of the launch pads are. 39A is where SpaceX is launching their rockets from. 39B is where NASA will launch the Space Launch System (SLS) in the future.
The way that NASA transports the rockets from the VAB to the Launch Pad is by using a vehicle called a Crawler, and a Mobile Launch Platform (MLP). The rocket stands upright on the MLP which is raised above the ground. The Crawler will drive underneath the MLP and pick up the entire launch platform and rocket. The Crawler can carry over 24,000,000 lbs. which will enable it to carry very heavy rockets like the SLS. The Crawler Way, the path that the Crawler travels on, is 7 feet deep into the ground. It is filled with 5 different types of rocks to support the Crawler’s weight and its cargo. One of the types of rocks is from Tennessee and it is the only rock that will not make a spark from the crawlers treads. It takes the Crawler 4-5 hours to go from the VAB to the Launch Pads at a speed around 1 mph.
The size and scale of the crawler-transported was hard to fathom.
The crawler-transporter was gigantic!
We visited the Apollo/Saturn V Center where we got to see the different stages of the rocket in all in one place. It’s the tallest rocket in the whole world. The Space Shuttle has about the same amount of thrust, but it is a much smaller rocket. We couldn’t believe how such a big thing could get up into space. The command module, where the astronauts were, was tiny in comparison with the rest of the rocket. We learned that you have to be going really fast to be able to break the earth’s gravity and go into orbit. They have to jettison the boosters because they are too heavy to carry once they run out of fuel.
One of the main exhibits in the Visitor Center was the Atlantis Exhibit. We saw the actual Space Shuttle called Atlantis. Atlantis was the next to last out of the five Space Shuttles built, and it flew the last mission. It was so cool to see it; some of the tiles had streaks on them because of the heat. Some of the other exhibits told us about the Hubble Telescope. NASA is developing another telescope called the James Webb Telescope that will be studying the birth of galaxies. Because of how long it takes light to travel, we can see things that happened billions of years ago if they were very far away. The telescope will also look for exoplanets and signs of life or water. The James Webb Telescope will be launched by another space organization, which is really cool.
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The presentation leading up to the space shuttle Atlantis reveal was incredible.
We watched an IMAX movie called A Beautiful Planet. It was filmed in the International Space Station or the ISS. It taught about how to care for our planet and it showed beautiful views of the Earth from the ISS.
The next day, we got to have a private tour of KSC. Our tour guide was Mr. Malcolm Glenn. He was really nice to us and he was very energetic. He knew so much about NASA and taught us lots of interesting things.
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Our personal tour guide was Mr. Malcolm Glenn (KSC-SAG20) who was a wealth of knowledge about NASA.
He took us to see the VAB up close. Our necks hurt after a while looking up. The VAB has an American flag painted on it that is 21 stories tall. That was pretty cool.
We got to see a hangar filled with cool jets and helicopters! The planes belonged to a company called Starfighters. Apparently you can go up to 80,000 ft. in them. We thought that was really cool.  We didn’t know that NASA had Huey helicopters either.
The F-104 can fly at up to speeds of Mach 2.2!
The F-104 can fly at up to speeds of Mach 2.2!
NASA has three completely refurbished UH-1 Huey helicopters too.
NASA has three completely refurbished UH-1 Huey helicopters too.

A full size mock-up of a Space Shuttle was built and was previously in the Astronaut Hall of Fame at KSC. Now the Hall of Fame is closed and being relocated closer to the visitor center. The mock-up, named Inspiration, is now sitting on the KSC property. We went to see it and it was very funny to see a full size Space Shuttle sitting in the middle of grass and bushes.

These kids didn't really grow up during the shuttle era, but we sure did!
We didn’t know there was a shuttle named Inspiration!
We also got to go to the Launch Control Center (LCC). We were super excited to go into one of the Firing Rooms! We sat down and looked through some of the procedures for a launch. We got to see the Launch Director’s Chair and see all of the different binders and procedures for each launch. Each Firing Room has a plaque for every mission that was controlled from that particular Firing Room.
Rebecca and Kimberly vying for the Launch Director's chair.
Sitting in the Launch Director’s chair in Firing Room 4
On one of the walls of the LCC they had artwork that was done by the astronauts children for each launch. I can’t imagine what it would be like to have one of your parents be an astronaut and have them go into space. You would be so worried during the launch. We thought it was really cool that those kids could be a part of the mission and be remembered by everyone who walked by that hallway.
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The children of each of the space shuttle crew makes one of these white boards for each mission.
The most amazing part of the whole trip was getting to see a rocket launch. The United Launch Alliance Atlas V MUOS-5. It was launching the MUOS-5 satellite into orbit. The MUOS system is for the U.S. Navy. It was really amazing to watch the rocket launch. We went to an area that was quite close to the rocket so we got a very good view. When the rocket took off it left this huge plume of smoke and it was amazing to watch it shoot up into the sky. It was so fast that the rocket was out of our view in less than a minute. There was a delay in us hearing the sound that the rocket made because it took some time for the sound waves to reach us. Even so, it was extremely loud. It felt like a small earthquake was happening underneath us and there was a rumbling in our chests. It was a truly amazing experience and we will never forget how awe-inspiring that was.
One of the highlights of the second day was witnessing a rocket launch.
One of the highlights of the second day was witnessing a rocket launch.
We'll never forget this experience!
We’ll never forget this experience!

Thank you Mr. Malcolm Glenn for being our special escort that day and sharing all your knowledge and experience about NASA with us.  It was an unforgettable experience!

With Mr. Glenn outside the VAB.
With Mr. Glenn outside the VAB.